Sweet MUMories Oral History Project - Carole Schul

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Sweet MUMories Oral History Project - Carole Schul

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Date

September 2, 2016

Duration

20:30 minutes

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Sweet MUMories Oral History Project
Transcript: Carole Schul, September 2, 2016
Donation record #_Schul.D.922016_
Transcribed by Erika Nisbet 6/8/2017. Approved for deposit by Marsha Robinson on 9/21/2018
Copyright Miami University. All rights reserved


MRR: My name is Marsha Robinson and we are recording an oral history with Mrs. Carole Schul as part of the Sweet MUMories Oral History Project to mark the fiftieth anniversary of the Miami University Middletown, Ohio, campus. This interview is taking place on September 2, 2016, in Johnston Hall. Mrs. Schul, do I have your consent to proceed with this interview?

CS: Yes, you do.

MRR: Thank you. So can you tell us about your first connections to Miami University?

CS: Basically, we came back to Middletown in 1971. The campus was already here at that point but for a while we really didn’t do a whole lot with it. Our son was born overseas but started Middletown Schools in 1976 and we kind of would come over to Miami and see things and things like that. One of the things I do remember when he was in, I believe, later elementary school he attended the Kids in College, which I believe he had to be selected to participate in that. He thought that was really a good experience for him. He loved that.

MRR: What kinds of things did kids do in Kids in College?

CS: They did some science experiments as part of Kids in College and I believe he did some fun things, they did some fun things also. But I remember that was kind of a special thing. One of the other things he was also invited, and I believe this was when he was older, he attended some sort of a science workshop that he had been selected for, too. He actually ended up being when he went to college he was a chemistry major. So, science and math were always his very strongest points but he really thought that Kids in College was kind of a neat experience for him. He liked that.

MRR: So you’re talking about family. I understand that your family started as a unit at the Oxford campus.

CS: We did. David and I met in 1962. I was a sophomore at Miami and he was a junior and we dated the entire time at Miami. And then we were married in 1964 so we’ve been a Miami Merger for years and years, a real true one. It happens that our son also graduated from Miami University and his wife also graduated. They are considered Miami Mergers but they really didn’t know each other at Miami at all. They happened to be there at the same time though.

MRR: So it’s a multigenerational family experience?

CS: Right, right, right.

MRR: That’s wonderful.

CS: We’ve had, yes. I only have one brother and actually two of his children also went to Miami University. David has three other brothers and two of those are Miami University graduates from the Oxford campus.

MRR: That’s amazing. Can you tell us what your major was and your career choice?

CS: OK. I started Miami as an elementary education major and never changed. Actually, I taught, I taught thirty years and then I was director of a nursery school here in Middletown for fifteen years. So, I was involved with education for over forty-five years.

MRR: Some of your students may have attended the MUM campus. What did it mean to them and their families to know that education was here?

CS: I think having this campus here has been great just from the standpoint of, in the beginning it was definitely kind of a two-year program. Now, with all the four-year degrees that they are now offering, I think it’s just been a real added bonus that has helped Middletown tremendously. I know I’m very involved with the scholarships through the foundation and when we review all the students applications many, many of the students are taking post-secondary classes, which, you know thank goodness Miami is so close that it’s just right in their backyard that they can do it. It’s kind of amazing. Right now we have a girl living with us, or staying with us this semester. She’s actually taking a class here on campus to finish up her degree before she starts into the nursing program.

MRR: So, access is very important?

CS: Access is wonderful. It makes it very convenient for the kids.

MRR: You mentioned foundations. I understand that you are associated with quite a few community groups. Would you mind talking about those?

CS: OK. Quite a few years ago my neighbor happened to be very involved with Soroptimist of Middletown and kind of got me involved with that. I was a Soroptimist member for many, many years. I just recently kind of took a leave of absence for a couple of years but Soroptimist has had a very important part of Miami Middletown. They were one of the very first groups to offer a scholarship for women here on the campus, which that scholarship is still offered yearly to women. We had to kind of expand. It used to be only for the Middletown campus and now because students are constantly being, going to different campuses it’s now offered to all of the regional campuses. But I’m also very involved with the Middletown Community Foundation. Actually, I’m the president-elect and will become the president as of the end of this year. And the foundation has a very special place in Miami Middletown has offered. We actually have all of our receptions each year for our graduating seniors as part of Youth Council. One of the things our Youth Council students do is they are allotted an amount of money, they read grants from all the different non-profits and then are awarded grants to different non-profits and we give those away in May. For probably the past six or seven years I’ve been the mentor for Youth Council kids so I’ve really enjoyed that because it kind of keeps me involved with the high school kids instead of elementary kids. I was a kindergarten teacher so I only had little people but I really enjoy the Youth Council group.

MRR: Could you tell us about the connection between the Middletown Symphony and how long the symphony has been around and the Miami campus?

CS: OK. Actually, Middletown Symphony is celebrating their seventy-fifth anniversary this year. Kind of the sad thing is this will be our final year. It was a decision that was very difficult to make. We spent many hours discussing it. Middletown Symphony has kind of been a landmark in Middletown and it’s kind of sad that we just can’t keep it going. It ends up being our board has been the same board for many, many years. We’ve tried to attract a younger population to get involved with being on the board. We’ve tried to attract a younger audience to come and listen to the symphony concerts and that’s getting more and more difficult. We’re kind of losing our support base. It’s harder and harder for us to get grants to keep the symphony going. It’s harder and harder for us to try to fill Finkelman Auditorium because our audience is getting much older. One of the things that I do as part of the Middletown Symphony board is I’m in charge of scholarships which we give every year to junior high and high school students. I also am in charge of all the receptions that we have. And for every concert there’s a reception following that so we now do our receptions in Finkelman lobby. Many years we did them at Verity Lodge but that has, as I said, now we do them at the lobby immediately following the reception.

MRR: I understand that if anyone is very careful when they’re walking towards Finkelman Auditorium that they might find your name some place. Can you tell us about your decision and where your name can be found?

CS: I don’t know. I know we’ve supported Miami University but I can’t tell you exactly where we would find our name.

MRR: The Fountain of Knowledge.

CS: Oh, I’m sorry. Yes, OK. I guess that is the Fountain of Knowledge would be, that is in Verity or that is in the lobby of Finkelman Auditorium.

MRR: OK. Can you tell us about some of the symphony events like Mid-Summer Melodies?

CS: OK. Ten years ago, actually eleven years, ago Carmen De Leon and I were sitting down and kind of deciding how to kind of make, do a fundraiser would be enjoyable for people. So Carmen, being the director of Middletown Symphony, has enormous wealth of people who he can pull. And so he plays the drums and so he always gets a few other people and we always end up with maybe four or five people who would perform. In the beginning, Mary Allen Tanner performed for us. We’ve had some other people performing. In the last, probably the last six years, seven years, we would hold them at the Middletown Campus Community Center, part of Miami here. It was a wonderful event. We did it for ten years straight, helped make some money for the symphony. People loved it. It was a close, they were very close to the entertainers. They liked that and we did not do it this summer for the very first time. I guess I had, we had company for part of July and we were busy in August and it just wasn’t going to work out as far as having a good time. So this was the first year we did not do it, first summer.

MRR: I understand that you have an interest in Verity Lodge as a facility and a building. Can you talk to us about what you’ve done there, what it means to you and how you’ve helped it evolve?

CS: One of the things, as I said because I was in charge of the receptions for the symphony, in the beginning we had them in Verity Lodge and many years ago Verity Lodge didn’t look very good. It needed some refurbishing. So one of the gifts financially that David and I made was to give them money and we had some new blinds installed. We had painting done. They kind of cleaned up the floor a little bit and we tried to have some pictures hung. That has changed over the years. But we just wanted Verity Lodge to look a little bit nicer for the receptions. And I know it’s hard because there’s lots of different groups that are in there and so different groups change things around a lot. But then the orchestra actually decided that they thought it would be more convenient to have the reception immediately, right in the lobby, so people could leave the concert and wouldn’t have to walk. So that works for us, too.

MRR: OK. You mentioned an organization that held a convention here, the PEO Convention. So, is this another extension of how MUM is available for the community and can you tell us what the PEO Convention is?

CS: OK. I am a member PEO which is our entire goal is Professional Educational Opportunities for women. We give scholarships for women to further their education. And a few years back we hosted the group. And Miami University Campus and Community Center welcomed us to have our event in that section, in that building, which was very nice. That’s a perfect building for things and I think that has really made a difference in Middletown. That building is used constantly. I know that, that room. And it just really has helped me for people who have never been to the Middletown campus because these were people from all around the surrounding areas of PEO chapters. They were very impressed with the facility and just the ease of getting into the event. It was a nice idea.

MRR: So the construction of the Miriam Knoll Community Center is an asset for the city?

CS: Oh, that construction of Middletown, of Miriam Knoll, is very, very important. It has really made a difference in Middletown. And I love the idea that it’s the campus. And I think because some campus, community money was used to help build it, then Miami Middletown really feels strongly that the community is welcome to use it. Well, I think that’s one of the most important parts of it. I love the addition that the campus made here. It has really changed the campus, I think.

MRR: Music has been featured in many of your comments. Do you recall working with Claire Easton or do you recall her as a person and can you share with us a Claire Easton story?

CS: Claire Easton happened to live two doors away from us, the whole entire, when we lived at our other house in
Middletown. For twenty-eight years Claire Easton was a very close neighbor of ours. Claire was one of the very first people here on the campus and she started that Artist and Lecture Series. And so she brought lots of different entertainment. Claire was also very involved with Middfest. David and I were also very involved with Middfest. And so we just had lots of time to do different things. One of the things that I do remember that Miami also offered at the Finkelman Auditorium was the Fantastic Fridays. Our granddaughter used to live in Middletown and, when she was quite young, we would be her babysitters. And so when they had the special Friday events we brought her more than once. And we would have to sit in the back because all the other elementary schools were with us but she just loved the different events. I remember the puppets that came. I remember lots of things. One of the things I’ll never forget, even as she got a little bit older and she would come with us to set up the receptions, she would dance on the lobby of Dave Finkelman Auditorium while the symphony was rehearsing. That was her very special thing to do. Nobody was watching her. So while the symphony was rehearsing she danced on the lobby.

MRR: And so that’s the Fantastic Free Friday program?

CS: The Friday, yes they would do those on Fridays for the Fantastic Fridays.

MRR: OK. And then did you ever see any of the piano concerts by Rod Nimtz and Jimmy Rogers? Could you talk about those?

CS: One of the very special things about Rod Nimtz, who is just an unbelievable, talented individual, they would do dueling pianos and I believe Rod was the one who probably started the whole thing. His college roommate Jules Davis possibly (I can’t remember what Jules last name is) but he would come down from Cleveland and they had the two baby grands on the stage and Jimmy Rogers would have his baby piano and then Jeff Smith played also and it was absolutely a fantastic evening. We still have some CDs that Rod made for us years and years ago. He just is an unbelievable music-talent, musician. But yes and that was always held at Finkelman. An outstanding evening of music.

MRR: Did Rod’s talent ever effect something in your family life?

CS: Rod has been a very special friend for many, many years. When our son got married thirteen years ago, Rod actually played their music for them at the church. And it was interesting because they got married in a church in Dayton and Rod, who has unbelievable musical talent, had to have the organist from the church just there. She, she could not let somebody play that organ unless she was present, so he did. One of the things I also remember about Rod is that he was one of our conductor candidates for the Middletown Symphony. And he wanted to play that evening and he was just an unreal person, just so talented.

MRR: Is there anything else that you would like to share with us about what MUM in terms of access or community support as originally envisioned by the planning committee that created this campus?

CS: I applaud those men many years ago that had that vision. It’s a wonderful opportunity. There were some real leaders of Middletown who felt it was very important. I know that when I’m on Dave Finkelman Auditorium I look at those Finkelman pictures that are on the wall. Obviously, they felt very, very, you know, they wanted Middletown to have a special place here, wanted Miami to be here. I applaud them for doing that. Hopefully we have helped a little bit financially and just kind of getting involved with things. I promote Middletown Miami very much. I think it’s a perfect opportunity for students. As I said, I’m very involved with the scholarships and I strongly recommend students, especially if they aren’t sure where they want to go to school or financially they really don’t have a lot of money, that this is a perfect opportunity to get started and see if college is really the place for them. So I love it. I’m very pleased it’s here.

MRR: Is there anything else that you’d like to share with us?

CS: At this time I can’t think of anything else that I’d like to say.

MRR: Do I have your permission to discontinue the recording?

CS: Yes.

MRR: Thank you.


Indexing terms for the finding aid:

Artist and Lecture Series
Auditorium
Children
Dave Finkelman Auditorium
Davis, Jules
Daycare center
De Leon, Carmen
Early Childhood Education
Easton, Claire
Elementary Schools
Fantastic Free Fridays
Fountain of Knowledge
Four-year degree
Fundraising
Grandchildren
Kids in College math/science program
Marriage
Miami Merger
Middfest
Middletown Community Foundation
Middletown Symphony
Mid-Summer Melodies
Miriam G. Knoll Community Center
Multi-generational Miami families
Music
Nimtz, Rod
Non-profit organizations
Oxford campus
PEO Convention (Professional Educational Opportunities)
Post Secondary Enrollment Options (PSEO)
Rogers, Jimmy
Scholarships
Schul, Carole
Schul, Dave
Smith, Jeff
Soroptimist International, Middletown chapter
Soroptimist Youth Council
Tanner, Mary Allen
Two-year degree
Verity Lodge

Interviewer

Marsha Robinson

Interviewee

Carole Schul

Location

Johnston Hall, Miami University Middletown

Citation

“Sweet MUMories Oral History Project - Carole Schul,” First to 50 - Miami University Middletown Digital Archive, accessed April 24, 2024, https://mum50.omeka.net/items/show/1072.